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Title: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Matthew on June 23, 2009, 12:08:52 PM
The much anticipated sequel opens tonight.  Word is lots of 'splosions.  Anyone going?

Does the Loew's in Cherry Hill have a real IMAX or just that fake IMAX?

Title: Re: Bayformers 2: ROTF
Post by: Falcon on June 23, 2009, 12:29:41 PM

Does the Loew's in Cherry Hill have a real IMAX or just that fake IMAX?

Its listed as a location on the IMAX website, so I imagine its real.  I know what you are talking about though, sometimes theaters try to sell their "Giant" screens as IMAX, like the theater at the King of Prussia mall.
Title: Re: Bayformers 2: ROTF
Post by: DavAnthony on June 23, 2009, 12:38:20 PM
I try to avoid opening day since the nuisance quotient tends to be much higher than I can tolerate.  I'll definitely be checking this movie out though within the next few weeks.  I'm excited because I've heard that the movie is far more about the robots this time, since the studio felt comfortable with having it focus on them as opposed to Megan Fox's hynie and Shia Lebeaf's spit build up on his lower lip (although I'm positive they are both there to ample degrees)
Title: Re: Bayformers 2: ROTF
Post by: Darth Monkey on June 23, 2009, 02:37:06 PM

Does the Loew's in Cherry Hill have a real IMAX or just that fake IMAX?

Its listed as a location on the IMAX website, so I imagine its real.  I know what you are talking about though, sometimes theaters try to sell their "Giant" screens as IMAX, like the theater at the King of Prussia mall.

I'm pretty sure it's a fake one, knowing the size of the real one I have near me at the Trop.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Nicklab on June 23, 2009, 02:51:36 PM
Even if it's being screened at an IMAX theater, it may very well not have been shot in IMAX.  At least not the whole movie.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Darth Monkey on June 23, 2009, 03:14:41 PM
Bay said at some point that portions were made specifically for IMAX.  People who see it in IMAX will see a few seconds more of various robot battles.  I'm not sure if that would be shot for IMAX, since so much of that would have come from post-production special effects.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Falcon on June 24, 2009, 05:24:11 PM
Reviews around the web are really bad, has anyone seen this yet?

Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Darth Monkey on June 24, 2009, 06:00:29 PM
Probably tomorrow night for me.  No rush. :P
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Nicklab on June 24, 2009, 06:10:09 PM
Haven't seen it.  But then I have been mindful of the fact that there really has not been the big promotional push for this movie that the first Transformers got.  It's really not that high on my list of things to see.  And a big part of that has to do with Michael Bay's filmmaking style.  He thinks that blurry, hyper kinetic action is something that audiences want to see.  Personally I find that annoying.

And this whole movie brings to light something that even Steven Spielberg has been talking about.  That being that there are TOO many movies that are designed to be blockbusters.  It used to be that a movie might have a higher budget, but it was the audiences that really decided what was a blockbuster and what was not.  Now, it seems that the studios will build their year around a single movie that is DESIGNED to be a blockbuster.  The effects gags seem to be planned before the story is written.  The whole thing just seems very forced, and the stories seem to be suffering.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Mandalorian on June 24, 2009, 09:03:27 PM
Im in no rush to see this either but I heard at the midnight showing at Rockaway, there was  line around the theatre last night and they played the movie in several screens. 
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Darth Wallet on June 25, 2009, 01:52:23 AM
I tried to see the midnight show and it was sold out.  So, I went and saw it tonight.  Very entertaining.  A lot of action and special FX.  This is not an Oscar kind of movie but who cares  ;D  2 1/2 hours of non stop action and Fox  :o :o :o  Now I need to track down the toys
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: CHARBAR1 on June 25, 2009, 09:05:53 AM
I really liked it a lot...great Transformer action. One critisism; it's too long. They could have cut out at least a half hour of fluff in the middle. That being said, a must see on the big screen...excellent FX.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Matthew on June 25, 2009, 09:40:31 AM

More than the SPX I'm really interested in the development of the Michella character and also the exploration of the burgeoning relationship between her and Sam.  Will the film deliver on that level and quench this viewers thirst for a director who's willing to tackle all the complications of romance at that age?
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Darth Monkey on June 25, 2009, 11:23:43 AM

More than the SPX I'm really interested in the development of the Michella character and also the exploration of the burgeoning relationship between her and Sam.  Will the film deliver on that level and quench this viewers thirst for a director who's willing to tackle all the complications of romance at that age?

http://www.cracked.com/article_17527_if-everyday-life-was-directed-by-michael-bay.html

My sister and I are seeing it tonight.  Although we cashed in a bunch of free Fandango points or whatever, so at least we're not paying to see it. ;D
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Darth Monkey on June 25, 2009, 10:21:32 PM
I tend to find ways of liking films that other nerds hate on like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and the first Transformers.  I don't take them that seriously and try to have fun, and it works.

That didn't work this time.  While the robot battles were cool, it doesn't excuse the absolutely poor and stupid filmmaking surrounding the rest of the film.  Even when the robots were talking, I wanted to hit the mute button.  Mudflap and Skids are the new Jar Jar Binks.

Thank goodness I still have a new Harry Potter movie to look forward to this summer.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Matthew on June 26, 2009, 06:06:49 PM

Just saw it today.  I enjoyed it.  Between the two movies there isn't a shred of a coherent plot, but I laughed a few times, got choked up a few times and its probably the "biggest" movie I've ever seen.  For whatever that's worth.  I guess as Micheal Bay would say........."It's awesome!"
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Nicklab on June 28, 2009, 10:14:24 PM
Is it me, or does Megan Fox seem totally disgusted by this kid?

(http://jugomag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/megan_fox27_wenn2461924.jpg)
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Darth Monkey on June 28, 2009, 10:29:27 PM
Is it me, or does Megan Fox seem totally disgusted by this kid?

(http://jugomag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/megan_fox27_wenn2461924.jpg)

Did he just step out of a Delorean from 1985?  Who cuts their hair like that anymore?
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Matthew on June 29, 2009, 05:49:15 AM

That kid with the rose has become a big news story.  She says she didn't see him and has offered to send a signed picture, etc.  Plus I think Kodak has offered a $50K reward and a real rose exchange if the kid will come forward.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Falcon on June 29, 2009, 07:02:43 AM
She was on the Jimmy Kimmel show Friday night and they kind of referenced that.  One of Jimmy's security people claimed to be a huge fan, so she called him over and gave him a fake kiss and a hug and wrapped her legs around him.

In her defense, I heard that before the kid with the rose was snubbed a guy in another city actually got close enough to her that he was able to kiss her.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Matthew on June 29, 2009, 09:12:57 AM

When can we begin to discuss the finer points of this movie??
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: hokiepoker on June 29, 2009, 05:07:08 PM
Just saw the movie today with my nephew, loved it.  How can you not like a movie where all they do is go around and blow things up.  I know the critics are hard on movies but they prefer sappy dramas and 2 homosexuals riding horses (not that there is anything wrong with that).  This movie is exactly what I wanted and hoped to see.  I like the line about being under the robots (Devastator's) scrotum.  Was glad to see Ravage and that they stuck with the sneaky Jaguar and that he came from Soundwave.  All in all I was pleased.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Matthew on June 29, 2009, 05:17:19 PM

I thought they dropped Megatron in the trench b/c it was too cold down there for robots to function.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Aurrasing666 on June 29, 2009, 08:31:46 PM
Saw this tonite with my bro, i thought it was awesome!  lots of action, sh!t blowing up YES  ;D
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: hokiepoker on June 29, 2009, 09:43:52 PM

I thought they dropped Megatron in the trench b/c it was too cold down there for robots to function.

I don't remember from the first movie but maybe that's what the humans said and we underestimated the Transformers.  I'm glad they brought back Megatron, you need to have him along with Optimus.  I guess one part which is a little confusing is that the Allspark (or even it's pieces) can give life to a hunk of metal or machinery but it killed Megatron.....and if it can give life to inanimate objects then why couldn't they have just used it to touch it to Optimus Primes dead body and make him come back to life. 
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Matthew on June 30, 2009, 06:04:20 AM

I don't remember from the first movie but maybe that's what the humans said and we underestimated the Transformers.  I'm glad they brought back Megatron, you need to have him along with Optimus.  I guess one part which is a little confusing is that the Allspark (or even it's pieces) can give life to a hunk of metal or machinery but it killed Megatron.....and if it can give life to inanimate objects then why couldn't they have just used it to touch it to Optimus Primes dead body and make him come back to life. 

You're right.  Never thought about that.  Maybe the humans just didn't know.  Jetfire could have told them, "Hey if you didn't just waste that splinter on me...."

Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Gaussian Blur on July 02, 2009, 09:46:06 AM
Watched my bootleg copy of this last night. Loved it!

Two things that bothered me though:
I didn't like the Decepticon that looked like a hot girl.
What was up with Ravage vomiting that swarm of tiny 'bots that were able to steal the all spark fragment?
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Darth Monkey on July 02, 2009, 11:51:38 AM
I hope you guys who loved Transformers: ROTF remember these comments when G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra hits in August.  TF has set the bar so low for me that I'm actually looking forward to G.I. Joe now.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 02, 2009, 03:03:44 PM
I hope you guys who loved Transformers: ROTF remember these comments when G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra hits in August.  TF has set the bar so low for me that I'm actually looking forward to G.I. Joe now.

I agree with you Ben. This was NOT a good movie.

To me it felt like they had written a "The Fallen tries to Destroy Our Sun" movie and a "Starscream and the Decepticons Resurrect Megatron" movie and when both scripts were nothing more than 90 minute movies, they decided to cram them together into one big incoherent mess.

I'm sorry if I'm going to break the embargo on spoilers, but here it goes.

They killed off Optimus Prime in this movie.

This movie had the potential for being viewed by fanboys for decades on the same level as Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and The Empire Strikes Back. They could have seriously ended this movie with the Decepticons having the upper-hand leading into a third movie.

I think they should have stuck with The Fallen and had his own little force of Decepticons consisting of the Constructicons, Demolisher (the big guy from the beginning) and Rampage (the bull dozer at the end) and made the movie entirely about the Fallen coming to Earth to activate that machine. The plot is pretty easy to work through....

- Start off with Autobots and humans fighting the remaining Decepticons who came to Earth in the first movie (except Starscream)
- Have the big fight with Demolisher which isn't hush-hush like the governments want
- Have The Fallen's minions focus more on making the Autobots look "bad" so the humans ask them to leave
- Autobots leave Earth
- Now with Earth unprotected, The Fallen hatches his plan to reactivate that machine
- Have the symbols that Sam sees lead him first to JetFire and then to the device (key) that will start up the machine (i.e. NOT the Matrix of Leadership)
- Once recovered have the key stolen, the Fallen has Devastator destroy the pyramid
- The Autobots return to Earth to stop The Fallen and the humans admit they never should have asked them to leave and then the big fight in Egypt ensues
- Have Optimus square off against The Fallen (and not do so well) as the rest of the Autobots face off with Devastator to destroy the machine
- Have JetFire decide during that fight to change his allegience to Autobot from Decepticon and then have JetFire join the fight with Optimus to defeat The Fallen
- Have The Fallen land one last fatal blow that kills Optimus
- Movie ends with Optimus dead and Jetfire telling everyone about the Matrix of Leadership and how it can be used to bring back Optimus from the dead

That's where the movie should have left off.

The third movie could have then focused on Starscream, Soundwave, Ravage and some more Decepticons coming back to Earth, steeling the other shard of the cube from the first movie to resurrect Megatron while the Autobots and Jetfire go on a mission to retrieve the Matrix of Leadership to resurrect Optimus Prime.

They tried to cover TOO MUCH in this movie and instead of covering everything well, they ended up covering NOTHING well at all.

Don't get me wrong, it had some great effects and good action sequences, but not much more than that.


Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Clone Commander on July 29, 2009, 12:23:24 PM
Bay - No DINOBOTS in live action movies.   :-\

According to an article in the latest issue of Empire magazine Transformers Revenge of the Fallen director Michael Bay makes clear his views on the inclusion (or lack thereof) of the Dinobot's in the live action films. Bay comments that "They've never been discussed [for inclusion]. I don't like them. Actually, I hate them.". This comes as sad news to fans of the beloved G1 characters and does not bode well for those hoping for the inclusion of the Dinobot's for the third installment of the film.


I think they could have done a flash back (pre-historic  time period) when a recon team of autobots could have come to Earth to investigate Megs whereabouts. Perhaps a few autobots could have taken Dinobot form then.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Matthew on July 29, 2009, 01:33:48 PM
Actually, I hate Bay.  It does make sense though, a dinosaur isn't much of a disguise.  They'll probably use the name Grimlock for a random Autobot with one line.
Title: Re: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen
Post by: Nicklab on July 29, 2009, 03:31:17 PM
I thought the Dinobots were awesome!  Bay just stinks.